Marquinn

Sac is right.
plat farming is wrong.  its cheap and its not fair for all those "legit" players who have working hard  to get to where they are and then some noob plat farms to become better. No one is whining we are speaking the truth.
Sac is semi-pr0 lmaoo haha
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kapsas112

unless u dun know... there is a cap... and it is 70 lvls... but if the cap will be reduced to 20 lvls... well i guess i feel sorry for ppl who want help for doing post quests and class transfers... and besides... will be extreamly funny if a lvl 100 wan go run zod/rp... and has to bring a lvl 80 toon with him/her... and besides... who asked anyone to change the lvl 40 reward when it was 100 plats? bk then it was only 300 plat/ acc and no more... so clearly they tought about the possibility of ppl starting to farm plats... and still they changed it...

Terminator

What about a cap on lvl difference when teaming.. like if the lvl gap is more than 20 then low lvl get zero exp, and married couple have no cap, used in alot of other games so shouldnt be to hard to i ...
Laranee Post at 2009-8-25 14:42

maybe it will work

Terminator

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Sacrifice Post at 2009-8-25 14:26

at least 5k plats for each ring. average, you need about 2-4k plats to get 80% leech stone unless you are extremely lucky, but this only happened once in a blue moon.

Remove the reward. Give me gold for those newbie to complete their quest instead.

Laranee

Why do u feel sorry for people who need help with post quests and transfers ??  u get alot of exp there ?? and when did a lvl 100 get exp in zod ?? all i said was limit the exp, not prevent em from actualy teaming.

And i think that  max limit will only slow em down a little.. they would just make new accounts when they reach max, But hey anything that will slow em down or make it troublesome is welcome

valasca

Thank you people And Val I didn't mean remove everything called plat lol Just the Reward for level 40 (By the way wohoo big achievement getting to level 40 -.-)
But I know you know that Just  ...
Sunshine Post at 2009-8-25 14:10

lol sunny i knew that i meant plat from prize not all plat. But sac its not first time GM'S have warned players when there getting banned, And somehow I dont think it'll be the last time a GM warns there buddies in game.
prior post edited especially for Sunny xD

Luck

Well, they could make it so a Lvl 1-40 couldn't team with someone at Lvl 50 or higher. That would solve a lot of problems and people would still have a nub to allow entrance into RPI \ EZ.

As no one should need an Uber char to do their 15 ad 30 xfers

and if a GM is warning a player of an Impending Ban, then they have absolutely no business being a GM. Well, this is my own feelings from being a GM in several other MMO's. and is what led to my retiring as a GM from MU Global... Corrupt GM's and their friends who got anything they wanted and got away with anything in game.

The way I see it, A GM is like an elected official, the people pay their wages....and they can be removed or start losing wages (Plat Purchases). So my advice to them, is to start doing their Jobs in a Timely and Fair manner else this game wont survive another year due to Political (GM) corruption!

xRenegade

I expect quite a lot of flames in response to this post, but that's probably why i'm making it.

Exactly why do people consider plat farmers "Wrong" or "Cheaters"?

Even if you're a kid, you can make 8-10 dollars a hour doing some odd-job or some retail/service part-time job. And this is the bottom tier of the wages.

With 8 dollars, you can buy 150 plat according to the Mall prices.

Now, with extreme plvling, 3 characters take about 1.5 hours to reach lvl 40, and that's with double exps, so it's about 1 character per hour without double experience. So in 1 hour, you make 20 plat.

This is merely to point out that people who work will always have a CLEAR plat advantage over people who spend all day switching characters in and out to plvl.

So people who complain about plat farmers with uber gear are pretty much just people who plat and feel wronged because someone that hasn't spent money can possibly compare to them in the game.

So I need to be the Devil's advocate and say, how exactly is Plat farming "cheap" and what exactly is a legit player? I've played this game for 3 years now, and have interacted closely with the GMs, and even the GMs admit, that this is a plat based game. Vestige I itself was designed for growing weapons above +8 to level in, this isn't my opinion, this is how the Chinese designers made it to be.

So when the main currency ends up being plat and plat items, for a person to be unable to acquire these items mean that they'll just end up stagnant, get bored, and quit. And trust me, this game requires as many people as it can, it's community size is quite small, and many servers complain about a server being "Dead"

So what makes a player in this game legit? Everyone chooses to play a game their own way, and as long as one way doesn't create an Unfair Advantage that others CAN NOT achieve, then all paths to play are "legit". Powerleveling is something ANYONE can do. Hell, even a total noob can make lvl 40s just through plain lvling over a few days. Which is why i find it ironic Marquinn calls plat farmers noobs, because it's only the true "Pros" that can achieve the maximum exp to plvl the fastest. And at that point, it's definitely not "cheap" because the faster you plvl, the more you have to play, and plvlers actually have to work quite hard to rotate characters in and out. And EVEN from working so hard, it'll take 8 hours to make enough plat that a teenager could earn through working 1 hour, so I really can't see how this is "cheap" and "unfair".

To conclude, platinum is a necessary currency for a player in this game to succeed. This game has been inherently designed to require it for proper leveling. Without plat, it would take a person a week or more to lvl when you're above lvl 48, and I apologize, but there's just not enough game depth, IE. quests and bosses, to justify 1 level per week -> month. So the game environment has changed to one where getting plat is necessary to play the game. And this used to be possible from buying plat from plat buyers... but what happens when plat buyers are no longer selling plat for gold?

Furthermore, I've made it clear that plat-farming is in NO way cheating. and if anyone wants to provide proof against this assertion, I welcome it.

Sacrifice

Lol. DUH! This Game Isnt Ment to Be EASY,And Dont Give Me That Bull-Spit About U Cant LvL W/o Plats Bcuz Thats Stupid. Plats Control No Way of How U level Only Things That HELP u get There, And Darnit If u Cant Afford the Plats That Help Then Sux to be You. But For ME To Spend Money and Other People Get For Free, Please Justify How Thats Fair? If There Was No Plat Farming Rule Then Darnit i Would Shut my Mouth and Farm myself. BUT YOU CANT.

Lol.

I Reach in My Pocket - Pull Out 100 USD - Buy 2k Plat

Loser Like You, Farm Plat For Couple Hours Back In the Day = 2k Plat

Tell Me How Thats Fair And u Think Farming ISNT Cheating?

Again. Get To Where Iv Got By BUYING Plats

Because Where Your Progress in The Game is Now Wouldnt Be Anywhere Even Close to That If u Didnt CHEAT To Get There. I Paid For What I wanted From the Mall Therefor YES Im Not Happy When other People Get it For Free. That Whole Thread You Just Wrote Serves No Justice.

LEGIT PLAYER = A Person Who Has Aqcuired There LvL And Equips By A) Playing The Game / Buying Plats From a Mall

PLAT FARMERS = A Person Who has Aqcuired There LvL / Equipds By Abusing Platinum That Isnt Free For the Rest of us. = Cheating

azshadios

Think about the children:p, like saying if u cant handle the abusive and cuss words on country chat dont play the gameP

Xodus.

69# Sacrifice


chill out a bit, i dont think you intended this to become an arguement but your replies have been a little hostile. you cant force your own opinion on everyone else ya know

azshadios

lol one way to solve this, simply increase the amount of plats per dollar that way everyone win, more people will be willing to buy instead of wasting time farming, you guys get more customers win win solution, $50 just to get an fail attemp on gwep? i rather spend that on strippppperrrrsss

Sacrifice

71# Xodus.


I Didnt Intend This To Be A Arguement No

But When People Sit Here and Try And Justify Cheating And Bash Me For Only Stating Facts

Everyone Is Entitled To There Own Thoughts, But When it Comes to Real USD its Different.

And Im Sorry If It Upsets Me To Pay Thousand USD To Get What I Have And See Others With The Same/Better Equips For Free. Ya Dig? Justify That For Me

My Apolgies First off If I upset Anone, Not my Intentions. I just Wanna Play a Game Thats Fair. And Folks With Rings Like This

2009-8-25 18:58

Isnt Fair =[ I Spent 100 USD On My Rings And Got NO WHERE Lol. But Imagine the Person Who Blew 10k Plats For Free to get That? Would that Upset You?

I Apolgize Again For Any Bad Language, I Love a Good Debate, Right or Wrong.

Im Not Forcing My Opinion On anyone, People Can Think What They Want.

But if You Think Plat Farming Is OkaY, Then You Either Dont Buy Plats So You Dont Understand to Begin With OR You Farm Plats and Get For Free and Dont See th True Value Behind Them.

Amen

Xodus.

73# Sacrifice


sure i understand but honestly i dont think the gms would have changed the lvl 40 reward if they truely cared about people exploiting it. but if they didnt think of that possibility then perhaps they are more ignorant than i thought.

farmernightmare

b] 59# Sacrifice


It's all depended on luck...if u see someone with four line of 50+,50+40+30+ or so on,,,they are same as four lines of 50+50+50+50+, because the bloodlust heart lv8 stone creates leech between 25% to 59%......they just all using bloodlust heart lv8  stones for 4 of them....but the among of leech is given by the system....Check out *Mila* gears in Genesis server...

Also, u don't know how many exactly APS are used for four lines of bloodlust heart lv8 stone, because the success rate is also depended on luck too....sometimes, u just need 2 stacks of APS, but sometimes need 10stacks or more and can't make four lines...so many people should know it as well,

it's also work same for GW...I tried +12 to+13 with 4 big bless with success rate of 32% and try them 20 times at least but didn't success...but sometimes with 10% success rate with one try got success.

Rachell

Sacrifice isn't Luck is your dad?...

azshadios

man ur on crack, 2% chance on 3rd line and 1% on 4th? why dont you try get 4lines of  50% then tell me how hard that is

Sacrifice

75# farmernightmare


Respect What your Saying And it Does make Sense, But look At the Bigger Picture, not Only About that Ring, But +20 Gweps and All Other Kinda Crazy UBER Gear Allowd In Game Play?

Try Failing 4 Supers On Your Gwep W/o 100% Success

Thats 50 USD PER TRY That U Just TRY Lol. So To get to +20? At 50 USD Per Try? =[- Not a Casino I Would Wanna Gamble In

farmernightmare

That's why I mentioned about closing the lvl40reward system immediately after new maps release.

Also, as someone mentioned that the cost of pt need to be reduced, i suggest reduce it to 50% at least and adding reward with purchase pt at the same time too, so more people will buy pt instead of farming pt....

farmernightmare

New plat queen.
http://mwo.enjoymmo.com/forum/thread-4910-1-1.html