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Post Last Edit by Lorna at 2010-8-30 06:26

Post Last Edit by Lorna at 2010-8-30 06:20

Post Last Edit by Lorna at 2010-8-30 05:43

since i have doubt on the gm who handled my case before (gm lemon) and even sent him some pictures about the lurer yet no action was taken, i post it here today and see if gm really will do their job. Please bear in mind this wasn't the first time he did the mistake and wasn't the first time it was reported.

Botting as usual but notice some one is coming based on the mini map

here come the tricky guy who play archer and have some nice hiding skill

he knew that wouldnt enough to get me killed so he lured more from the bottom map

trying to reduce my mp using his skill but notice that it wont get me killed as long as im not afk, he need more mobs

there he go..luring from the bottom of map

finally he dissapear thinking that i was afk and wouldn't know how he try to lure mobs. what a dirty trick!


so gm, you said you will intervene..the date and the timing is based on the image's name. what will you do?
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I believe the thread is talking about players mobbing each other within same side. Same side cant pk each other in neutral map. That's why we all can read about on the paragraph no 6: ""In Magic World Online, there are two sides----Dynasty and Empire who are born to be foes. ....."" There isnt mobbing at the first place if there are from different sides. Having finished reading  this thread i wasnt convince and i went to double confirm with senior gm Jane and asked: Does mobbing applicable to same country? She answer me a "NO". I didnt  take SS on the conversation with Jane and i am now so reglet. People may think that i point finger to Jane but why would i want to point finger to a senior gm and make the situation worse?

Now everything seems turn out to be 180 degree which it isnt suppose to mean to be. Congrats to Hagan My toon got ban for 1 day because GM Lemon keep insisting that this rule said mobbing is applicable for both country and now i would like GM LEMON to tell us here again if it's whether same or both sides?

Lorna or ^Viking^ or Dato'Seri just mentioned about "this is not my first time". She is right. My toon previous got banned for 3 days before this. The details is like follow:

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[MWO#IFH-6896] Is it a joke that my account got banned????
Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:56 PM
From: "GM John" <mwo@support.enjoymmo.com>
To: xxxxx@yahoo.com
Hi,
As I said, we could not offer it to you.
Thanks for your understanding!
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From: xxxxx@yahoo.com
To: mwo@support.enjoymmo.com
Cc:
Subject: Is it a joke that my account got banned????

I cant understand and i wont tolerate to this. U have to prove that i was guilty. Here i gonna say this again, "I WOULD BE GLAD THAT U CAN SHOW ME EVIDENCE ON SOMETHING I DIDNT DO"

GM John, said that he found me mobbing, I am ectually expecting ONLY him to reply to me as he was the only person made such decision to ban me.

GM Tiger, asking for apology once as he was convince i didnt mobs based on my explanation even i didnt see the ss.

Can i escalate the case to senior managment seems every gm take turns to answer and none cant show me that i was guilty.
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NONE of them able to prove that i was guilty.
Post Last Edit by 8rcher at 2010-9-1 06:16

since i have doubt on the gm who handled my case before (gm lemon) and even sent him some pictures about the rude words yet no action was taken, i post it here today and see if gm really will do their job. Please bear in mind this wasn't the first time she did the mistake and wasn't the first time it was reported.






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From: GM Lemon <feedback@support.enjoymmo.com>
Subject: [MWO#FVU-4798] Complaint of rude words
To: xxxxx@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 5:27 PM

Dear 8rcher,
I've tried again to warn Dato'Seri, however, he is not online again, as you can see from the attachment. Since we dont understand the language he speaked, all we can do is to warn him to speak English in world channel. I hope you can understand us on this point. :)

Best Regards,
GM Lemon
http://www.enjoymmo.com/

From: xxxxx@yahoo.com
To: feedback@support.enjoymmo.com
Cc:
Subject: Complaint of rude words

Pls allow me to follow up on this ticket since it have been more than a week. Thanks.

From: xxxxx <xxxxx@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [MWO#FVU-4798] Complaint of rude words
To: feedback@support.enjoymmo.com
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 10:58 AM

Hello Ville,

Pls find the ss for the rude word again from the same player but using different toon, in fact she get afraid now and speak only using noob toon. I take the decision to make the ss and send it to u as i know that a person do it more than once will get banned for all their toons which including their main. Dato'Seri is Hagan-Dazz, ^Viking^ alts. pls find the ss together with the google translation about she is telling people that im the descendants of dog. :)

Tthanks.

--- On Wed, 7/21/10, GM Ville <feedback@support.enjoymmo.com> wrote:

From: GM Ville <feedback@support.enjoymmo.com>
Subject: [MWO#FVU-4798] Complaint of rude words
To: xxxxx@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 7:31 AM

Dear Player:

Thanks for reporting that and i'll warn them at once. According to the rules, they should be warned in the first time.If you find them talking like that again, please contact us and they won't get a second chance.

Best Regards,

GM Ville
http://www.enjoymmo.com/

From: xxxxx@yahoo.com
To: mwo@support.enjoymmo.com
Cc:
Subject: Complaint of rude words

Hi gms,

lol, there is something that need to draw your attention :)).

As shown in the ss:

^Viking^ said: pukimak you la (It is a malay language, we can understand what it mean and capture_3.jpg taken from google translation is Motherohlalaer)

xXxLasmaNxXx said: pergi bayar la ham ka chan (Again all malay language. it mean from capture_4.jpg, It's going to pay ham ka chan, ham ka chan is a extreme rude words, it mean "your whole family will die and no more off spring". i pretty sure Jane can understand what it mean)

^Viking^ said again: fuk your mother **. It's something i dont have to translate at all

These are more than regular rude words. Pls ban them for at least a week for such prominent and harsh words plss...

Sorry for the trouble and thanks.

Server: bc2
Ign: 8rcher

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Post Last Edit by Lorna at 2010-9-1 11:01

wow..this is off topic..can you post it at the correct thread please? this thread is about mobbing not rude words, maybe you need to learn how to read first ..zzzzzZZZzzz

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From: GM Lemon <feedback@support.enjoymmo.com>
Subject: [MWO#FVU-4798] Complaint of rude words
To: xxxxx@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 5:27 PM

Dear 8rcher,
I've tried again to warn Dato'Seri, however, he is not online again, as you can see from the attachment. Since we dont understand the language he speaked, all we can do is to warn him to speak English in world channel. I hope you can understand us on this point. :)

Best Regards,
GM Lemon
http://www.enjoymmo.com/

From: xxxxx@yahoo.com
To: feedback@support.enjoymmo.com
Cc:
Subject: Complaint of rude words

Pls allow me to follow up on this ticket since it have been more than a week. Thanks.

From: xxxxx <xxxxx@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [MWO#FVU-4798] Complaint of rude words
To: feedback@support.enjoymmo.com
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 10:58 AM

Hello Ville,

Pls find the ss for the rude word again from the same player but using different toon, in fact she get afraid now and speak only using noob toon. I take the decision to make the ss and send it to u as i know that a person do it more than once will get banned for all their toons which including their main. Dato'Seri is Hagan-Dazz, ^Viking^ alts. pls find the ss together with the google translation about she is telling people that im the descendants of dog. :)

Tthanks.

--- On Wed, 7/21/10, GM Ville <feedback@support.enjoymmo.com> wrote:

From: GM Ville <feedback@support.enjoymmo.com>
Subject: [MWO#FVU-4798] Complaint of rude words
To: xxxxx@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 7:31 AM

Dear Player:

Thanks for reporting that and i'll warn them at once. According to the rules, they should be warned in the first time.If you find them talking like that again, please contact us and they won't get a second chance.

Best Regards,

GM Ville
http://www.enjoymmo.com/

From: xxxxx@yahoo.com
To: mwo@support.enjoymmo.com
Cc:
Subject: Complaint of rude words

Hi gms,

lol, there is something that need to draw your attention :)).

As shown in the ss:

^Viking^ said: pukimak you la (It is a malay language, we can understand what it mean and capture_3.jpg taken from google translation is Motherohlalaer)

xXxLasmaNxXx said: pergi bayar la ham ka chan (Again all malay language. it mean from capture_4.jpg, It's going to pay ham ka chan, ham ka chan is a extreme rude words, it mean "your whole family will die and no more off spring". i pretty sure Jane can understand what it mean)

^Viking^ said again: fuk your mother **. It's something i dont have to translate at all

These are more than regular rude words. Pls ban them for at least a week for such prominent and harsh words plss...

Sorry for the trouble and thanks.

Server: bc2
Ign: 8rcher

Email handled by Ingle Games
URL: http://www.enjoymmo.com
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Dear ^Hagan-Dazz^,
I received your ticket and the snapshots are confirmed as proof of luring mobs, so 8rcher got banned for 1 day as punishment. As I told you before in my reply. :)

Dear 8rcher,
1)   You just admited it in the last ticekt that the trash talker has been warned already. Original words "All i heard was from GM ville warned her instead of u." And I have explained to you that GMs are in one group, No matter it is GM Ville or me, the warning is given anyway.
2) You still didnt answer my question yet. Could you prove to me Dato'Seri is ^Hagan-Dazz^ if you wanna accuse her?
3) Your account was banned 1 day on Agu. 30 for luring mobs to kill others (not trash talking), which I have explained to you and you accepted my explaination when we talked in server. Could you tell me what you are doing now?
4) I asked GM Jane, she said she never told you that before. Could you give us some proof if you want to speak officially based on a GM? Cause you are not one.
5) Luring mobs to kill others is not allowed, and details are in the first page of this post. :)
Post Last Edit by 8rcher at 2010-9-3 07:14

1) I agreed that gm Ville did warn ^Hagan-Dazz^, it wasnt u. GMs sure a group, it should be "our" instead of "me" word.
2) Hmmm, i think this is like a microchip engineer is asking a user that using his microchip technology to prove that if there is a certain  there is 98765 of "1" in this own product. Sure, promote me as a gm that have full excess to the system log and i am more than willing to spend my sweet time trace the logs. There will be 2 ips address. You only need to confirm if they are same ip or different? U said u cant, cant mean same ip or not same??
Did u ask ^Hagan-Dazz^ whether Dato'Seri is her toon and whether was she using it that time and speak those word?
3) Did i accept? No, I didnt. I was telling that u should be sharing to people here to let people know that mobbing from both sides is not allowed. I did highlighted with red if u can tell us here again if mobbing is prohibited whether same or both sides?
4) Where and which sentence I used to make u feel that I speak officially based on a gm? My answer is no, I didnt try to be a gm, gonna need u to prove which sentence possibly make u feel that way?
5) I guess we all read first page before we proceed till here. Again still didnt hear your reply if mobbing is prohibited whether same or both sides? Please confirm it if ur 100% sure I was violenting the rule by pvp with some1 from each side which is how this game  being design. She is using mobs to gain hp, i dont see gm give me hide and stealth skill and i cant use it to help her for more mobs.
don't think this will work when you are basically posting at the wrong thread with those ss :P

i only upload something that is fresh, not something old and not related with topic of this thread, please reconsider learning how to read "carefully" next time for the reported character that did the luring, this thread is not about thrash talking

by the way, it is kinda amaze me how a normal player can be so sure about which toon belongs to whom? i wish to learn that too!! Else, i can do all accuse like that, anyone botting near your toon is you, anyone wearing your gear is you, anyone speak similar language is you bla bla bla..(story never end)

i think i know which sentence lemon mean, the one you "wish" to be promoted as a gm and have full access (not excess), who told you a cyber cafe operating with 1 ip address mean only 1 player is in there? that ip address represent each customers that play or use the internet service there? you basically need a MAC address to prove that,ip address itself is not good enough.

back to the topic of mobbing, you might not be able to find the statement saying mobbing of different country is allowed too, right? that is some sort of grey area,

p/s sometimes you might better off to cool down your self instead of digging your own grave,i  suggest you to take few days off from game before things turn uglier :) or you can just ignore everything and concentrate on other important things to do, maybe something that can really benefit yourself not just to satisfy your feeling ..kekekek
Post Last Edit by 8rcher at 2010-9-3 07:37

89# Lorna
Since u get attention from gm taking action from uncertain rule and my purpose is here to get the same attention. When u know learn that people here actually do thing according to the rule?  Not to mention posting correct topic to the relevant section. u would have been banned at the first place if solid evidence was delivered to them. Thrash talking is different from rude words. Thrash talking happen everyday, speaking rude is something deserve to have some attentions.

All u have to do is to deny ur not Dato'Seri right here, as simple as that. I didnt assume, dont try to mislead people i was assuming, it was just simply a rude words taken being taken for gm to take action. Giving hint to gm instead letting them trace on all ip is not wise, I want to do all the dirty things as much as i can to make this process goes smoothly.

"wish" word? come on, full access was my reply after her question being asked. u need to learn how to read... LOL    using Mac address is not smart, industry standard always go for ip as ip is unique at a paricular point of time. Mac address is fixed to a hardware, in this case normally a modem. May be u should try to share your mac address theory to some IP experts and get yourselves a gd recognition LOOL.

I am sure u want me to take some more break to make further prolong this ss so that u can put it your rude words are "old" again or let bygone by bygone
1st. Dato'Seri is not me, happy?

2nd if you didn't assume, can you explain your "theory" on all those toon you claimed were mine? having to said, lending my gears to some close friend or borrowing some item from others does not make you that person, if you really have proves, you should stop the talk but upload your evidences so you will not be termed as "accusing"

3rd you did not reply full access but was full excess and i remind that to you in red from my reply earlier, in this case i've done my reading and maybe you need a microscope to reconfirm what was written earlier? The quoted word "wish" was just a joke on your intention asking gm to promote you as a gm to gain full access. Well, some people can understand that as joke, maybe you don't!

4th ip address may be the standard, but i never said anything about standard process, i only give you a hint that a single ip address does not represent 1 person. Can you ensure that a wifi zone area has only 1 user connected when the admin page shows there were actually 2 or more MAC client connected?Does a single ip  means they are the same person? well, once connected to the web, these people will have similar ip address recorded, but still that don't make it as a single user right? i'm just trying to give you some hint, if you still insist that a single ip address represent a single person regardless on what environment he/she are connected to, why don't we get a 3rd opinion from those who are expert in this field? oh btw, i think i've asked you earlier and you didn't reply me about this

i'm done writing and don't wish to prolong this, you can continue to upload screenshots or what ever pictures you wanted but as i said, referring to the first post of this thread, it is obviously referring to mob lurer, not trash talking. If you want some attention, try to create a new topic or submit your screen shot to the relevant post.

p/s u know this wasn't your first time to post in the wrong section, rodzi reminded you about posting in the correct section long ago..you never grow ..haizzzzzZZzzz%$#@##@
So much writing that 2 much for even me to read but i will say this........ i hope ur ready for it..... MWO is only a game!! Do u undertsand that? Y would u even care wot sum1 that doesnt know u or anything about thinks
sticks and stones bro....
also luring mobs is for little girls who are scared of their shadows grow up kill them urself and leave ur name on their bot log

Happy gaming all :)
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91# Lorna


I sent ticket based on ss taken on Dato"Seri few hrs to max 1 day same as the day ss was taken, i seldom see people admit their fault. I trust gm should be able to confirm about your "Dato'Seri is not me".

Since u like to discuss, pls confirm if ^Viking^, ^Hagan-Dazz^, Unreg_Demon, Dark_Revourer, DarkSorrow, Borneo_hunter, Falling_Angel (Ign may be missing some symbols or wrong capital but u know what are those toons i am talking about) isnt your toon? Did u create them? Nobody can give u proof unless we have access to the system to track the ips. you also assume others as me and u found so wrong accusing others more than 2 times. The term "accusing" cant be justified here as I give clue.

congrats on doing your reading but i dont think u understand it at all. here i go to explain to u a lil. It got nothing to do with be in excess or access. you said: 'i think i know which sentence lemon mean, the one you "wish" to be promoted as a gm and have full access (not excess)'
Again u assume the full excess or access make lemon feel that i want to be a gm. BUTTTTTTT... the full excess or access is my replied after lemon telling me I wanted to be a gm. LOOOL read again and make sure u undertand it before u go on further assuming... yes i think u gonna take official letter from your government as a "Joke" as well. Why do u think they want to make it official reply at the first place?

Again u assuming "ip address may be the standard". Some people can understand what a standard mean, may be u dont! 1 ip being allocated to every connection, can be a home or company address. Are u saying that ur using company internet to play this game and there is more than 1 person in your company using the same connection play mwo too? u can always asnwer me yes as i wont be suprised ever since heard about your roommate running your toons last time LOL. Take it as a residential address. u have friends, family members playing this game too? What if i gonna tell u everybody can be anybody by simplying telling people my elder bro just came to use my pc. Do u think such people sharing same computer or sharing same router in the same property or neighthood (100M for wifi standard) will considering as more than 2 entities? Im sure what i am talking about. I dont need 3rd person opinion, do u??

We all sure know we need to send ticket. Just like u did. This place is  still hot, u came here to draw their attention, im doing the same like u do loool...
Post Last Edit by Lorna at 2010-9-6 22:36

1st,  If gm want to confirm for you they will not ask you for proof them self
2nd U couldn't explain your theory, instead trying to drag the story around
3rd I don't understand what you said, obviously u use the wrong word but try to cover up!
4th Try to google for networking for newbies.

p/s Don't have to write so long, just submit your theory! end of discussion. - don't forget use the correct thread next time, The thread title isn't made for people to simply post what they want, That's why it have many sub-section and it's own topic (eg; ohlalala attention seeker)

oh don't forget to answer the question from Gm Lemon too. I think you skipped that part (or maybe you can't prove anything????)
you guys need to suck more breasts and eat more pu$$ies
1st Learn to read if u want to participate even u dont have time to spend on reading. Prove??? read from start again... ur talking nothing irrelevant right here. GM should have banned Dato"Seri if dont find them in the game until the owner follow up. But i dont think people being so greedy lvling x99999 lv100 toons want to approach gm for a lv45 toon and submit herself for the warning. Dato'Seri is using your language and she is talking exactly like u and even she replied my mesg directed to hagan-dazz. She was the only replied even hagan-dazz was here. Does it ring a bell? There are 2 possibility: 1st: I should got a answer telling me that Dato'Seri isnt Hagan-Dazz and ban Dato'Seri as cant find her in the game according to the game rule. 2nd: 2nd warning to hagan or ban or whatsoever like how they executing their job.

2nd My theory is your theory. I always learn new trick from u although most of them are not clean trick. I just answer u about your theory right after u asked me mine. As normal, u cant reply it.

3rd u don't understand what you said, obviously u use the wrong word but try to cover up! Nice twisted. I bet u would ask exactly what sentence u didnt answer by now if u really dont understand it. All i can see is u cant answer and use "dont understand" to avoiding answer

4th No offend, i think u were still studying at secondary school while i was working in HP for network support. Newbies really a word suit u very well

What happen to all my questions to u? u cant answer them huh? let me ask u again 1 of the simple question as mentioned above. Are u  ^Viking^, ^Hagan-Dazz^, Unreg_Demon, Dark_Revourer, DarkSorrow, Borneo_hunter, Falling_Angel (Ign may be missing some symbols or wrong capital but u know what are those toons i am talking about) isnt your toon? Did u create them?

P/S: What happen to u while i was asking u open-end question? u didnt asnwer me yes or no and u started to talk something irrelevent. I am here trying to explain so details to u by spending my time on clearing your doubt. Just wondering why cant u spend a lil time to read for the answer from that u have ask? u need to spend more time on asking question :(

Question? I dont recall anything i didnt answer. All her questions to me being labelled by 1,2,3,4,5,6 by me and answer it accordingly.
as expected..long and winding reply.no good for health. take a break.have a kitkat.

as a matter a fact, i only remember small kid having to answer everything like you did. Don't think you understand what does a game mean for you, this debate will just be a wasted debate. You use dirty trick luring mobs to others, got banned, get use to it. If you can't kill then it is better to leave the bot ( lvl 102 cant kill a low level warrior ..hahaha :P)

not interested to keep it going, get a life ..tata
Personally I think the GMs are making it appear that they are trying to keep us appeased when in fact they are not doing anything to those that are continually harassing people in game. We are not seeing any assistance at all. Saga server fights continue everyday which people bullying others because of their guild or because they don't like them. There has been many occasions that are getting to the point where no one wants to play cause we know that they GMs aren't doing anything to fix the verbal and other wise harassment of  characters on both sides. This has been an ongoing problem and will get to the point if the GMs don't intervene there will be no saga left
Personally I think the GMs are making it appear that they are trying to keep us appeased when in fact they are not doing anything to those that are continually harassing people in game. We are not se ...
Cyria Post at 2010-9-19 18:31
Amen!!! I have commented several times since the posting of this thread and I see nothing is really done about this issue. I have send more screenies then I can count and what was done? NOTHING! I finally quit the game nearly a year ago because to me i don't play a game to be harassed, insulted, stalked, etc. i play a game to make friends and have fun and when the fun ceases to exist its time to move on. As much as i miss my friends - i log in occasionally to say hello - I'm glad i quit because there are other games to be found where such behavior and actions are not tolerated.
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Ya Kath, pretty much ANY other game does something about things like that :) They keep their forums clean too - which is not the case here (or I would have had my ass banned months ago :))
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