GM will intervene!

marla

After seeing your dedicated thoughts and opinions about luring mob to kill other players, we GM have made some decision about how to deal with such kind of behavior. The following is how we are going to do about this.

A  We will definitely intervene if the mob lurers are doing this for the purpose of harassing other players. In order to keep those innocent players in the game from being killed and also keep this situation from going too far which will cause bad influence in the game, we will ban those mob lurers as punishment.

B  But we also need enough evidence to confirm that they really are the mob lurers with bad intention. So if you unfortunately come across such kind of players, plz first send us the screenshots showing they are luring the mobs and also both of the chars of you and mob-lurer in the screenshots. Send us as many pics as possible. Tell us the exact time you being killed.

C After receiving the pics, we will have a thorough check on them and finally decide whether we should give him a ban or not. We will check the pics, survey some players in the server, and talk to the player who keeps luring mobs to kill others. It would take quite a few days before we get our final conclusion.

Let bygones be bygones, from now on (Dec.1st), if any of you guys bump into any players who continuously luring mobs to kill you for unreasonable purpose, send a ticket to us and tell us the specific situation and original story with screenshot enclosed, we will take some action about that.

In Magic World Online, there are two sides----Dynasty and Empire who are born to be foes. We hope the players of each side could unite together to fight against the other instead of killing your friends. All players from the same side should help each other to level up, so that they could get the victory in the Siege War and State War. In fact, we are going to release some update on the War between two sides. If your side is stronger, then you will gain more booty after the war. Also, although betrayal is shameful, the joy of revenge is always sweet. If you do hate someone, then migrate to the other country and make your bloody revenge is also more heroic than lure mobs to kill others.

As to set a level cap in these two Island Maps, we would not put that into the game. Because we believe that a Friendship Wing could easily go across the level restriction, which would make the level cap meaningless.

Actually we GM don’t want to get involved in such kind of situation because once luring mobs is also one of the strategies to level up in the game. But it can’t be used as a means of killing other ppl just for fun. Fighting is needed in the game because that will urge ppl to become stronger and also make the game more competitive. But it shouldn’t be at the cost of depression or feeling there is no fun in the game anymore.

Lastly, we just want you guys know that we will intervene when player lures mobs to killing other players for vicious purpose in order to keep the game a peaceful place. We think this is what we have to do before the game makes a turn into a place which is no fun, hopeless and filled with bad behavior and language. That is not what we want to see.

Here we made this decision also we can call it a rule; no matter you’re for or against it, we will follow it. Hope every one could also feel what we feel and stop doing what you’ve already known is bad in the game.

Thank you for your cooperation!!!

babydevil

bad decision to make

katharina

Hi Marla,

I'm glad a decision was made concerning the mobbing/harassing in Turtle and Wave Island. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision to make and took much thought.

However I still feel a lvl cap would be more effective.
Sure, if a low lvl player is or was in my friends list he could wing to my training spot uninvited. I dare him to do so because

a) it would most likely get him killed since the high lvl players train in rather dangerous areas and he wasted a FWing. After that i doubt he'd wing to me again... or
b) after using a FWing to my spot uninvited I would certainly blacklist his name thus he wouldnt be able to wing to me anymore.

But if a lvl cap isn't the answer putting a couple of long ranged mobs near entrance of the map would also keep some of the low lvl players away because they can't handle these mobs. There are about 2 "easy" spots in Wave Island near Entrance and often at least 6-8 low lvl UMs- with the emps often more then that - fighting for these spots by arguing, insulting and mobbing each other and this is creating a lot of bad blood between players in the playfield as well as in Country/World chat.

In any case lets hope your solution will work and bring some changes about.

xqme

Point (B)&(C) is a bit conflicting with Point (A).....
Most people that get Mobbed, are on bot, or are afk UMs.

i guess i was a tad slow in writing up my proposal and sending it to GM John.

Hope this is just the start of solving this, and not the final and only solution to this.

On one hand, GMs shouldn't need to intervene in such a manner because it wastes resources,
but on the other, we as players can't seem to decide on regulating (ie. if it's possible with the coding within the game).

Anyways, I'll try to send you guys some sort of report/proposal about what I had in mind.

valasca

Freindship wing could be used to enter of course that's easy the low levels get killed regularly by there own doing, how many fwings do you think they can get. But you cant use them in RPI maybe don't know if it can be done but restrict on those maps low levels using on new maps.
Kat is right even if they used fwings to us theyd die, result removed from friendlist
I for one am glad that the GMS are finally intervening in this because this want a post about accidentally luring mobs or a cpl random pks this was a post about Grief killing repeatedly luring mobs to get a player killed because of personal grudges to stop them playing/ leveling there game, even the forum moderator seemed to miss that point.
I did notice the ones who were negative on the subject in hand were actual players who do these actions or friends of players who greif kill and dont get mobbed or pkd themselves, for obvious reasons, So yes about time GMS intervened.
Also think when issues are going to effect players there should be more of asking the players there views as a group because no  GM or single player cannot speak for the whole.

grandma

Thanks for your intervention Gm's. I don't know if this will help or not, but it's a step in the right direction. I'm pretty sure that after one instance of someone being banned (properly) most people will put an end to the grief killings. Although that's in a perfect world. I'm sure some people will find ways around it. Nobody can say for sure what the results will be for this experimental solution, but we can be hopeful..........................................     As for eliminating Fwinging into the lvls, or putting range monsters at the entrance, I think it's controversial. I like the idea, but I also don't like it. I have a lvl 83 Sunscreening master ( I think he should be allowed to train in wave at that lvl), but he doesn't have lots of defense. If I brought him into wave he'd get torn to peices. Yes, I know it's probably my fault for still being foolish enough to have an archer when FA is clearly the only sensible class to use if you want to succeed, but I'm sticking to my guns. I just want things to be fair for all classes, and that seems like one that would screw me all up. Cuz I can't leech while my computer is loading the screen and I'm getting pummeled. The Fwing part may work, although it would be a major inconvenience to the highlvl players that try to meet up with eachother there. As for the lvl cap I thought it was the best idea, but the Gm's have spoken and for whatever reason it doesn't work it doesn't work. mabye, we can keep trying to come up with new suggestions to make it work if this doesn't work.

grandma

I guess there isn't much more to say on this subject, although i'm reluctant to give it up. I hope it will remain an open topic so we are able to watch and review how this new intervention is working out. mabye we can take some votes to decide if we should start another thread about it. I like the idea of keeping things open and the players being involved. If so..... respond here *points down*

Bravo

On one hand, GMs shouldn't need to intervene in such a manner because it wastes resources,
but on the other, we as players can't seem to decide on regulating (ie. if it's possible with the coding within the game).

I totally agree with xq on this part. I also think more time should be allocated for fixing bugs.

Great job on making this decision GM and your explanation. I understand your decision now.

katharina

Thanks for your intervention Gm's. I don't know if this will help or not, but it's a step in the right direction. I'm pretty sure that after one instance of someone being banned (properly) most people ...
grandma Post at 2009-12-1 10:50

Every class with the necessary lvl and gear to survive in new maps should be allowed to train in new maps,i agree! But as it was already pointed out training in Wave is a total waste for most classes except for UMs/GSs due to the mp drainage from the melee mobs there.
Whats the use if my FA gotta leave wave every 5 minutes because he runs out of mp. Not only that, once his polymorhp is cancelled he will get the mp bug and only by removing and re-equipping his vest can it be fixed, a dangerous action when ur surrounded by mobs who are trying to own you. lol

Unless the developers fix this problem Wave is not suitable for training for most classes.

grandma

Very true kat. I haven't had alot of experience with alot of other classes, but I know some are mp based. That would make them useless in wave. It certainly puts a dent in my archer's lvling. I think that if they won't change wave to where there is no mp drain then they should give us another lvl where other classes can get the same exp while not losing mp. But, what do I know. I still insist that the MWO robot should be made to be able to return to wave and turtle island, so we don't have to buy 1k plats worth of platinum just to be able to bot there for a day. ........ * cough cough*

grandma

10# grandma


1k plats worth of platinum.... I must be stoned

8rcher

That's awesome. I would like to thank you to gm by doing this. Though I personally think that it can be slightly improved by knowing purpose of luring mobs to player. My guildy had been suffer too much just because of purdy (ign: lucibit, BComet2) did it on a basis of revenge on me.

Everything must have a reason, nobody would keep going after certain people without any reason. It's a shame for we here all to know that his intention is revenge on me by going after to many innocent while they were afk with team spending Bliss D for many times and many days. It end up that they gotto stop botting. I did go after his guildies and friends too but WE ALL GOTTO UNDERSTAND THAT HE STARTED IT ON INNOCENT and I JUST FOLLOWED EXACTLY WHAT HE DID AFTER SENT IN MANY SS LURING MOBS FROM HIM TO INNOCENT TO GM. There wasnt any action taken on him so i thought it was legal and i went ahead like he did.

Nobody will care to spend so much time to go ahead certain people without a gd reason. It's tiring and time consuming but most of us will do that if he really did something so bad. It's too complicated to explain the whole story here. Going after innocent is what we have to focus and thanks to all the opinions. All innocent players can play their game now so let's enjoy!!!

8rcher lv95 Scorpion Progenitor, BitComet2
Angillu lv101 FA, BitComet2
8ummoner lv103 UM, BitComet2

Liquid

sorry marla.. i think this is a VERY bad decision.. players should protect themselves in higher level maps.. it's actually quite simple.. if you cant tank the mobs, it means you're not ready for the map. simple as that, as for the lurers, what if we were walking arounbd map and dying? obviously we need to scroll out, and conviniently, a weak player is around us.. that is not mobbing.. its just saving our own lives.

Thank you kindly

Sunshine

Wohoo.. Another great update to MWO that doesn't fix bugs/maps or anything really needed -.- Great job.. *Applaus*

Liquid

yeah sunny.. my thinking = if u cant survive mobs in turtle/wave = go to ice/bog. cant survive ice/bog? = go to sealed/hero. cant survive? then hell go back to sky city/sun city.. even if i mob u with 100 mobs there, u wont die unless you're a total noob

nogod

its a meaningless rule ppl they already said its hard to prove. hard to prove means the gm's will do it on the same chance you have of making +20 with no supers

Riverfox

Well, if someone messed with my friends, ill pk them constantly 24/7 and ill dedicate my playing time to pk that player till he apologize. He can send as many ticket as possible but i dont really care.

This game has always been a pvp game, if u cant handle it go play farmville.

Why not change this game's name to Magic Leveling Online?

Symba

hi

8rcher

I am kind of like the idea of RiverFox "Well, if someone messed with my friends, ill pk them constantly 24/7 and ill dedicate my playing time to pk that player till he apologize." , in fact, that's the right price these pople gotto learned his mistake and to be fair. Human will find way to get what they need. Be in legal or illegal. Glad i found out another alternative to wait for his apology

katharina

#18 and #19

I think you both miss the point of this thread. This thread doesn't concern itself with the pvp Dyna vs. Emp factor. It deals with the unfair mobbing/harassing of Dyna vs. Dyna often because the culprit dislikes  someone else or because the mobber has designs of someone elses training spot and even goes so far to pay another high lvl player to do the dirty work for him.
I'd like to see either of you pk your own country ppl 24/7, you'd be spending most of your time in prison, thats for sure. You wanna pk somebody theres plenty of emps if your a dyna or plenty of dyna if ur an emp which IS PART OF THE GAME but mobbing/harassing ur own isnt part of it!